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Post Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:40 pm
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Post Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:08 pm
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Yes it is. Must be Rosemount water eh.
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Post Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:50 pm
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Awesome! Great color

Post Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:14 pm
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Post Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:25 am
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First image is "daffodil" morph Neolamprologus pulcher. Ancestors were collected collected at Kantalamba or Kambwinba, Tanzania close to Zambia border. Daffodil morph has beautiful yellow of a daffodil. Other pulcher morphs have no yellow. The image also shows pulcher yellow eye ring.
Second image is another morph of unknown origin or possibly a hybrid. The fish displays some markings that identify N pulcher. However, the fish does not display double chevrons characteristic of all N pulcher.

Neolamprologus brichardi have T bar below eye and lack yellow ring around eye. Although there may be yellow spot above T bar or yellow and blue variegation pattern connected to T bar.
N pulcher have 2 chevrons on cheek and operculum below eye. Thus it was easy to differentiate T bar as N brichardi and chevrons as N pulcher. There is also color of eye ring. All pulcher have yellow surrounding eye and brichardi do not.
In Lake Tanganyika brichardi are found along Northern Tanzania coast and pulcher along Southern coast.

Papers published in 1998 and 1999, examined DNA from each species finding that DNA was identical in brichardi and pulcher. Authors concluded all brichardi (younger species) were actually pulcher. However, for various reasons many have not accepted the conclusion of these studies. Reasons include phylogeography, large number of DNA phylogeny studies are poor matches to meristic phylogeny and other reasons.
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Post Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:45 am
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They were all sold as daffodils to me by a reputable seller
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Post Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:54 am
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I stand by my evaluation of the second image.

I have clarified differences between pulcher and brichardi. I also suggest breeder take a look at African Diving blog published 6/18/2017. This post includes over 1200 images of brichardi and pulcher taken at many locations in Lake Tanganyika. Authors Magnus and Marchal Karlsson
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Post Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:25 pm
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Stumbled upon African Diving blog Bob mentioned. Great pictures of the fish taken from many collection points.
Currently keeping three tangs n. brichardi, n. pulcher "daffodil" and n. helianthus all of which look a lot alike and have become my favorite.
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Post Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:52 am
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On cichlid room companion the brichardi does not have the same tail fin, masked face in front and body
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Post Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:53 am
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Post Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:41 pm
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GIUSEPPEWATS9 wrote:
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The image is Chalinochromis brichardi.

Look for images of Neolamprologus brichardi. If nothing shows up for N. brichardi, it is because a group using DNA analysis found Neolamprologus brichardi and N. pulcher are same fish with location morph differences. That means that N. brichardi, location xyz would now be found under N. pulcher, location xyz

However, not all believe brichardi and pulcher are same fish.
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:07 am
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Neolamprologus Brichardi and your most recent picture of Chalinochromis Brichardi get name "Brachardi "from Pierre Brichard I think who studied and classified Tanganikian fish 1970s through 1990s I want to say but may have dates wrong.

The N. Brachardi fit into the common name larger "fairy" cichlid group which N.Brichardi, N.Pulcher, N.Pulcher "Daffiidil",N.Savori, N.Gracilis and likely some others which escape me but have that lyretail look in common. Common name many years ago "Princess of Burundi" also described many of these Neolamps fish collected for the aquarium trade.

Chalinochromis Brichardi as you mentioned do have that more rounded tail and more torpedo shape I'd say.
I have never kept them but if a bag comes up at MAS auction I'm likely a bidder cause it is on my wish list. :D
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:18 am
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maybe i should breed them than
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Post Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:43 pm
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Pierre Brichard owned collecting station on Lake Tanganyika. He found many cichlids for first time and exported these fish.

Check Cichlid Room Companion forum. Look up "How to contact Pierre Brichardi". In this thread another giant, Ross Scolof's tribute to Brichard is published following Brichard passing in 1990. Brichard' name deserves to be remembered by naming fish after him.
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